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I see you began editing this at about the "same time I left off." Wonderful——to see someone with access to Simon Moore's book editing the article. The extra details are much appreciated. Seasalt (talk) 11:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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    Article of the month - 1995 Japanese Grand Prix, recent Good Article promotion and failed Featured article candidate.

    The 1995 Japanese Grand Prix (officially known as the XXI Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on October 29, 1995 at the Suzuka Circuit, Suzuka. It was the 16th and penultimate race of the 1995 Formula One season. The race, "contested over 53 laps," was won by, Michael Schumacher for the Benetton team after starting from pole position. Mika Häkkinen finished second in a McLaren, and Johnny Herbert third in the other Benetton.

    Schumacher won his ninth race of the season, which equalled Nigel Mansell's record for victories in a season that was set in 1992. As both the Williams cars retired from the race, Benetton were confirmed as Constructors' Champions as Williams could not pass Benetton's points total with only one race remaining.

    Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari, started second beside Schumacher. However, "since his car had moved forward before the start," he was forced to serve a 10-second stop and go penalty. Alesi climbed up to second, before retiring on lap 25.

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    Championship standings and Grand Prix results
    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United KingdomLewis Hamilton McLaren 48
    2nd BrazilFelipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 48
    3rd FinlandKimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 48
    4th United KingdomRobert Kubica BMW Sauber 46
    5th GermanyNick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 36
    6th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen McLaren 24
    7th ItalyJarno Trulli Toyota F1 20
    8th AustraliaMark Webber Red Bull 18
    9th SpainFernando Alonso Renault F1 13
    10th BrazilRubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    11th GermanyNico Rosberg WilliamsF1 8
    12th JapanKazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 7
    13th United KingdomDavid Coulthard Red Bull 6
    13th GermanySebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 5
    14th GermanyTimo Glock Toyota F1 5
    15th United KingdomJenson Button Honda F1 3
    16th BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. Renault F1 2
    17th FranceSébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 2
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st ItalyScuderia Ferrari 96
    2nd GermanyBMW Sauber 82
    3rd United KingdomMcLaren 72
    4th JapanToyota F1 25
    5th AustriaRed Bull 24
    6th United KingdomWilliamsF1 16
    7th FranceRenault F1 15
    8th JapanHonda F1 14
    9th ItalyToro Rosso 6
    10th IndiaForce India 0
    11th JapanSuper Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 British Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    FranceFrench Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:31:50.245
    2nd FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari +17.984
    3rd ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 +28.250
    4th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren +28.929
    5th PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber +30.512
    6th AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull +40.304
    7th BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 +41.033
    8th SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 +43.372
    9th United KingdomDavid Coulthard AustriaRed Bull +51.021
    10th United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren +54.538
    French Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:16.449
    BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:16.490
    Row two SpainFernando Alonso
    (United KingdomLewis Hamilton
    FranceRenault F1
    United KingdomMcLaren
    1:16.840
    1:16.693)
    ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 1:16.920
    Row three PolandRobert Kubica
    (FinlandHeikki Kovalainen
    GermanyBMW Sauber
    United KingdomMcLaren
    1:17.037
    1:16.944)
    AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull 1:17.233
    Row four United KingdomDavid Coulthard AustriaRed Bull 1:17.426
    GermanyTimo Glock JapanToyota F1 1:17.596
    Row five BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 1:15.770
    FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:16.944
    United KingdomBritish Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:39:09.440
    2nd GermanyNick Heidfeld GermanyBMW Sauber +1:08.577
    3rd BrazilRubens Barrichello Japan/United KingdomHonda F1 +1:22.273
    4th FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari +1 lap
    5th SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 +1 lap
    6th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren +1 lap
    7th ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 +1 lap
    8th JapanKazuki Nakajima United KingdomWilliamsF1 +1 lap
    9th GermanyNico Rosberg United KingdomWilliamsF1 +1 lap
    10th AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull +1 lap
    British Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:21.049
    AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull 1:21.554
    Row two FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:21.706
    United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:21.835
    Row three GermanyNick Heidfeld GermanyBMW Sauber 1:21.873
    SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 1:22.029
    Row four BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 1:22.491
    GermanySebastian Vettel ItalyToro Rosso 1:23.251
    Row five BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:23.305
    PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber no time

    Auto infoboxes

    Hi - good question regarding parent company vs holding company !!

    I'm not too sure. But looking at the two articles, I would still suggest that "Holding company" is most suitable - but I can't decide one way or the other. Looking specifically at Volkswagen Group, they officially describe themselves as an "holding company", but I don't know how the other major automotive industry major companies describe themselves. Do you have any other clues or pointers - Daimler AG might be a good example. Is there a difference of terminology between British English and American English (or North American vs European)?

    I've now cross-linked both articles, to assist. Thanks for the heads-up, kind regards -- Teutonic_Tamer (talk to Teutonic_Tamer) 12:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

    Thanks four your reply. Now I'm confused! :)
    I wonder why Volkswagen Group call themselves a "holding company" when they obviously own stocks in their other marques, but they also make the Volkswagen cars and trucks under Volkswagen AG (which is the German for Volkswagen Group) . . .
    Company law is not my area, though, so you're correct about referring to someone else. Is there an appropriate WikiProject to forward this issue onto? -- Teutonic_Tamer (talk to Teutonic_Tamer) 12:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

    Rollback

    Hi again. I noticed you have rollback rights.

    Can you please rollback quattro (four wheel drive system) deleting edits of Zello555 and Robkraai - who appear to be the same. Zello has already been reported for vandalism to that particular article. And was categorically instructed by an Admin (MastCell) not to reinsert his uncited/disputed edits. The stuff that Zello is adding to the article is a blatant copy of his own personal website - which is a mish-mash of plagiarism and pure fantasy, based on internet forums, and NOT academic/professional textbooks.

    What do I do regarding Zello and Robkraai being the same person? Kind regards -- Teutonic_Tamer (talk to Teutonic_Tamer) 13:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

    Please participate in talks, provide sources for your edits, and avoid unconstructive deletions. BTW, 328cia has left a very nice comment on your talk page... --Zello (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robkraai (talkcontribs)

    Dear Teutonic Tamer, first of all I can reassure you, I am not the same person as Zello. It happens that we have the same opinion and this should ring some bell with you. There is a slight possibility that you are wrong and not the rest of the world. I added some explanation to my point of view and challenged you to discuss it. Unfortunaltely this seems not your way of working. In this way wikipedia will end to be the place where the most peristent person's opinion will e the truth and in my opinion it will be worthless. So please consider a discussion on the topic: A haldex coupling transfers speed and not torque. It equalises front and rear wheel speed regardless of the torque that is transferred. If no torque is possible to the front wheels, it automatically goed to the rear wheels. Unless convinced otherwise I will continue to make the change and then the question is who is the vandal: the one that shouts the loudest or the one that tells the trruth. Robkraai (talk) 10:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

    Saab

    Look - wiki guidelines point towards not having trivia, but they don't OUTLAW them. They also don't STRICTLY say that you HAVE TO have a tag. Thus, I am going to remove it on the basis of improving the aesthetics of the page by not having distracting and UNNECESSARY tags. Please realize this. Thank you. Rarelibra (talk) 13:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

    Touch of H

    Thanks for the help here. The question of SCCA's Class H led me to wonder if you've got access to their rule book. The website doesn't give displacement breaks for E, F, G, & H Prod, but I have to think the book would; of course, it may've changed rather a lot since 1955... Still, it's a start. TREKphiler 05:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

    Tried to find rules, but seems to be very hard and those has changed over the years --— Typ932  06:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

    Cut/paste

    If someone moves a page, like the idiot who put Saab 96 at Homopulkka, you have to move the page back, not cut/paste the contents. I have now asked an admin to fix this. Chryslerforever1988 (talk) 18:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

    Saab 600

    hi, You should find better sources to those claims, "Lancia’s collaboration with Saab also resulted in the development of new rust proofing techniques." this says nothing that it "had better resistance to rust than most Italian cars" or "it is rumoured that Saab required better rust resistance from Lancia so it would be more suitable for the harsher climate in Sweden in Norway. " is clearly rumour and there is nothing about cold climate. --— Typ932  21:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

    There are ofcourse better sources, but those was the sources I managed to find right now. I recall that the heater was very much beefed up compared to normal Italian cars. In any way you shouldn't just blank the text. // Liftarn (talk)

    Peugeot

    I notice you del the claim the 201 was 1st with IRS. You also took out the sourced statement it got IRS in '31. A little more care, in future? Otherwise, you risk getting nailed for vandalism. TREKphiler 16:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

    I put it back in. If somebody wants to argue the point, let 'em source it on the Peugeot page. TREKphiler 16:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
    True. Let 'em argue that one, too. TREKphiler 16:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

    WPF1 Newsletter (August)

    The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter
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    Article of the month: Forti (current GA candidate)

    Forti Corse, commonly known as Forti, was an Italian motor racing team chiefly known for its brief, and unsuccessful, involvement in Formula One in the mid-1990s. It was established in the 1970s and competed in lower formulae for two decades, with some success. The team graduated to F1 as a constructor and entrant in 1995 and continued into 1996, before succumbing to financial problems mid-season. The team competed in a total of 27 Grands Prix, scoring no points, and is recognised as one of the last truly privateer teams to race in an era when many large car manufacturers were increasing their involvement in the sport.

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    Championship standings and Grand Prix results
    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United KingdomLewis Hamilton McLaren 62
    2nd FinlandKimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 57
    2nd BrazilFelipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 54
    4th United KingdomRobert Kubica BMW Sauber 49
    5th GermanyNick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 41
    6th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen McLaren 38
    7th ItalyJarno Trulli Toyota F1 22
    8th SpainFernando Alonso Renault F1 18
    9th AustraliaMark Webber Red Bull 18
    10th GermanyTimo Glock Toyota F1 13
    11th BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. Renault F1 13
    12th BrazilRubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    13th GermanyNico Rosberg WilliamsF1 8
    14th JapanKazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 7
    15th United KingdomDavid Coulthard Red Bull 6
    15th GermanySebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 6
    17th United KingdomJenson Button Honda F1 3
    18th FranceSébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 2
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st ItalyScuderia Ferrari 111
    2nd United KingdomMcLaren 100
    3rd GermanyBMW Sauber 90
    4th JapanToyota F1 35
    5th FranceRenault F1 31
    6th AustriaRed Bull 24
    7th United KingdomWilliamsF1 16
    8th JapanHonda F1 14
    9th ItalyToro Rosso 8
    10th IndiaForce India 0
    11th JapanSuper Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    GermanyGerman Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:31:20.874
    2nd BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 +5.586
    3rd BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari +9.339
    4th GermanyNick Heidfeld GermanyBMW Sauber +9.825
    5th FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren +12.411
    6th FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari +14.403
    7th PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber +22.682
    8th GermanySebastian Vettel ItalyToro Rosso +33.299
    9th ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 +37.158
    10th GermanyNico Rosberg United KingdomWilliamsF1 +37.625
    German Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:15.666
    BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:15.859
    Row two FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:16.143
    ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 1:16.191
    Row three SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 1:16.385
    FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:16.389
    Row four PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber 1:16.521
    AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull 1:17.014
    Row five GermanySebastian Vettel ItalyToro Rosso 1:17.244
    United KingdomDavid Coulthard AustriaRed Bull 1:17.503
    HungaryHungarian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:37:27.067
    2nd GermanyTimo Glock JapanToyota F1 +11.0
    3rd FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari +16.8
    4th SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 +21.6
    5th United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren +23.0
    6th BrazilNelson Piquet FranceRenault F1 +32.2
    7th ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 +36.4
    8th PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber +48.3
    9th AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull +58.8
    10th GermanyNick Heidfeld GermanyBMW Sauber +67.7
    Hungarian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one United KingdomLewis Hamilton United KingdomMcLaren 1:20.899
    FinlandHeikki Kovalainen United KingdomMcLaren 1:21.140
    Row two BrazilFelipe Massa ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:21.191
    PolandRobert Kubica GermanyBMW Sauber 1:21.281
    Row three GermanyTimo Glock JapanToyota F1 1:21.326
    FinlandKimi Räikkönen ItalyScuderia Ferrari 1:21.516
    Row four SpainFernando Alonso FranceRenault F1 1:21.698
    AustraliaMark Webber AustriaRed Bull 1:21.732
    Row five ItalyJarno Trulli JapanToyota F1 1:21.767
    BrazilNelson Piquet, Jr. FranceRenault F1 1:22.371

    --Diniz(talk) 21:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

    Re: Seasons 63-65

    Hi Typ932. Peter de Klerk drove Alfa Romeo "specials" in the 1963 and 1965 South African Grand Prix. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 11:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

    Proposal for layout change of Automotive company timeline templates

    Having edited a lot of the Category:Automotive company timeline templates, I would like you to read and comment on my proposal for layout change of Automotive company timeline templates. –Fred Bradstadt (talk) 15:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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    Article of the month - Max Mosley, recently relisted as a Good Article

    Max Rufus Mosley (born 13 April 1940) is president of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), a non-profit association that represents the interests of motoring organisations and car users worldwide. The FIA is also the governing body for Formula One and other international motorsports.

    Mosley is a former barrister and amateur racing driver, and a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents the Formula One teams. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. Mosley has identified his major achievement as FIA President as being the promotion of the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP or Encap), a European car safety performance assessment programme. He has also promoted increased safety and the use of green technologies in motor racing. In 2008, Mosley retained his position after stories about his sex life appeared in the British press.

    Mosley is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley, former leader of the British Union of Fascists (BUF), and Diana Mitford. He was educated in France, Germany and Britain before going on to attend university at Christ Church, Oxford where he graduated with a degree in physics. In his teens and early twenties Mosley was involved with his father's post-war party, the Union Movement (UM). He has said that the association of his surname with fascism stopped him from developing his interest in politics further, although he briefly worked for the Conservative Party in the early 1980s.

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    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren 70
    2nd Brazil Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 64
    3rd Finland Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 57
    4th Poland Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 55
    5th Finland Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 43
    6th Germany Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 41
    7th Italy Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 26
    8th Spain Fernando Alonso Renault F1 18
    9th Australia Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 18
    10th Germany Timo Glock Toyota F1 15
    11th Brazil Nelson Piquet Jr. Renault F1 13
    12th Brazil Rubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    13th Germany Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 9
    14th Germany Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 8
    15th Japan Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 7
    16th United Kingdom David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 6
    17th United Kingdom Jenson Button Honda F1 3
    18th France Sébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 2
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st Italy Scuderia Ferrari 121
    2nd United Kingdom McLaren 113
    3rd Germany BMW Sauber 96
    4th Japan Toyota F1 41
    5th France Renault F1 31
    6th Austria Red Bull 24
    7th United Kingdom WilliamsF1 17
    8th Japan Honda F1 14
    9th Italy Toro Rosso 11
    10th India Force India 0
    11th Japan Super Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 European Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^1 Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    European UnionEuropean Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Scuderia Ferrari 1:35:32.339
    2nd United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren +5.6
    3rd Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber +37.3
    4th Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +39.7
    5th Italy Jarno Trulli Japan Toyota F1 +50.6
    6th Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso +52.6
    7th Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota F1 +67.9
    8th Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 +71.4
    9th Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +82.1
    10th France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso +89.7
    European Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Scuderia Ferrari 1:38.989
    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:39.199
    Row two Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber 1:39.392
    Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Scuderia Ferrari 1:39.488
    Row three Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:39.937
    Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:40.142
    Row four Italy Jarno Trulli Japan Toyota F1 1:40.309
    Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:40.631
    Row five Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:40.721
    France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:40.750

    Hope you enjoy. Chubbennaitor 08:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

    monobook

    Hi,

    I notice that you are using very old version of my monobook script. Have you considered updating it? Lightmouse (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

    Bot exclusion

    Thanks. It's a puzzle, but although I invented the mechanism I don't like to see it used long term on articles. There's a longer list of interwiki bots on the {{bots}} documentation, BTW. I'll have a word with Siebot and see what else might work (commenting out the interwiki, and having the correct partition elsewhere should but...) . Thanks again. Rich Farmbrough, 12:17 13 September 2008 (GMT).

    Cubic centimetres

    Whoops! Good catch. I was in the middle of fixing templates that spat out CID instead of in³, and inadvertently changed Template:Auto cc-cu in against the convention for cc. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 21:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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    The 1995 Pacific Grand Prix (formally the II Pacific Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on October 22, 1995 at the TI Circuit, Aida, Japan. It was the 15th race of the 1995 Formula One season. The race, contested over 83 laps, was won by Michael Schumacher for the Benetton team after starting from third position. David Coulthard, who started the Grand Prix from pole position, finished second in a Williams car, with Damon Hill third in the other Williams. Schumacher's win confirmed him as 1995 Drivers' Champion as Hill could not pass Schumacher's points total with only two races remaining.

    Hill started the race alongside Coulthard on the front row, amidst pressure from the British media for not being "forceful" enough in battles. Schumacher attempted to drive around the outside of Hill at the first corner, but Hill held Schumacher off as Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari got past both on the inside line to take second position. As a result, Hill dropped down to third and Schumacher dropped down to fifth behind Gerhard Berger. Schumacher managed to get past Alesi and Hill during the first of three pit stops. This allowed him, on a new set of slick tyres, to close on Coulthard who was on a two-stop strategy. Schumacher opened up a gap of 21 seconds by lapping two seconds faster per lap than Coulthard, so that when his third stop came, he still led the race.

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    Championship standings and Grand Prix results
    Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points
    1st United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren 84
    2nd Brazil Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari 77
    3rd Poland Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 64
    4th Finland Kimi Räikkönen Scuderia Ferrari 57
    5th Germany Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 56
    6th Finland Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 51
    7th Spain Fernando Alonso Renault F1 38
    8th Germany Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 27
    9th Italy Jarno Trulli Toyota F1 26
    10th Germany Timo Glock Toyota F1 20
    11th Australia Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 20
    12th Germany Nico Rosberg WilliamsF1 17
    13th Brazil Nelson Piquet, Jr. Renault F1 13
    14th Brazil Rubens Barrichello Honda F1 11
    15th Japan Kazuki Nakajima WilliamsF1 9
    16th United Kingdom David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 8
    17th France Sébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 4
    18th United Kingdom Jenson Button Honda F1 3
    Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Points
    1st United Kingdom McLaren 135
    2nd Italy Scuderia Ferrari 134
    3rd Germany BMW Sauber 120
    4th France Renault F1 51
    5th Japan Toyota F1 46
    6th Italy Toro Rosso 31
    7th Austria Red Bull 28
    8th United Kingdom WilliamsF1 26
    9th Japan Honda F1 14
    10th India Force India 0
    11th Japan Super Aguri 0*
    Standings after the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix. See 2008 Formula One season for further season summary and formula1.com or ITV-F1.com (and there is more there for the championship) for complete standings and statistics.
    ^Note 1 : Super Aguri withdrew from the championship on the Wednesday before the Turkish Grand Prix.
    Belgium Belgian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:22:44.933*
    2nd Brazil Felipe Massa United Kingdom Ferrari +14.461
    3rd Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +23.844
    4th Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault +28.939
    5th Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso +29.037
    6th Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber +29.498
    7th France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Toro Rosso +31.196
    8th Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota +56.506*
    9th Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull +57.237
    10th Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +1 Lap
    Belgian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:47.338
    Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari 1:47.678
    Row two Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:47.815
    Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Ferrari 1:47.992
    Row three Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:48.315
    Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault 1:48.504
    Row four Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull 1:48.736
    Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber 1:48.763
    Row five France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Toro Rosso 1:48.951
    Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:50.319

    *Hamilton was given a 25 second + to his racing time demoting him to 3rd place gifting Felipe Massa the win 1. McLaren appealed with hard evidence 2. Timo Glock also recieved this penalty for overtaking under the yellow flag dropping him to ninth place out of the points.

    Italy Italian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:26:47.494
    2nd Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +12.512
    3rd Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber +20.471
    4th Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault +23.903
    5th Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +27.748
    6th Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari +28.816
    7th United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren +29.912
    8th Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull +32.048
    9th Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Ferrari +39.468
    10th Brazil Nelson Piquet, Jr. France Renault +54.445
    Italian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:37.555
    Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:37.631
    Row two Australia Mark Webber Austria Red Bull 1:38.117
    France Sébastien Bourdais Italy Toro Rosso 1:38.445
    Row three Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:38.767
    Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari 1:38.894
    Row four Italy Jarno Trulli Japan Toyota 1:39.152
    Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault 1:39.751
    Row five Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota 1:39.787
    Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:39.906
    Singapore Singapore Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time
    1st Spain Fernando Alonso France Renault 1:57:16.304
    2nd Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom Williams +2.957
    3rd United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren +5.917
    4th Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota +8.155
    5th Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso +10.268
    6th Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +11.101
    7th United Kingdom David Coulthard Austria Red Bull +16.387
    8th Japan Kazuki Nakajima United Kingdom Williams +18.489
    9th United Kingdom Jenson Button Japan Honda +19.885
    10th Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren +26.902
    Singapore Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time
    Row one Brazil Felipe Massa Italy Ferrari 1:44.801
    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren 1:45.465
    Row two Finland Kimi Räikkönen Italy Ferrari 1:45.617
    Poland Robert Kubica Germany BMW Sauber 1:45.779
    Row three Finland Heikki Kovalainen United Kingdom McLaren 1:45.873
    Germany Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:45.964*
    Row four Germany Sebastian Vettel Italy Toro Rosso 1:46.244
    Germany Timo Glock Japan Toyota 1:46.328
    Row five Germany Nico Rosberg United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:46.611
    Japan Kazuki Nakajima United Kingdom WilliamsF1 1:47.547

    --Diniz(talk) 18:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

    Thank You

    The Automotive Barnstar
    Typ932, I've been going through the user pages of some automotive project members, and so far only one person has been thanked for their contributions. Looking at your work, it would appear you've done quite a bit, so thank you. :) --Flash176 (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

    Markku Alén

    Hey. This is not really a good idea. Although Fiat 131 Abarth currently only redirects to Fiat 131, there will sooner or later be either a separate article for 131 Abarth. Or a section for it on Fiat 131 (I'm surprised there still isn't). When that happens, it's not a fun job to go through Google or Whatlinkshere and correct all the wikilinks. Also see WP:R#NOTBROKEN. Thanks, Prolog (talk) 21:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

    Whether a new article is a good idea or not is not really the issue, but whether someone might create it. And it does not need to be an article, but just a section on Fiat131, after which the redirect will be changed to ※] to guide the reader straight to the appropriate section. To quote our guideline: There should almost never be a reason to replace ※] with ※]. This kind of change is almost never an improvement, and it can actually be detrimental. Prolog (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
    I reverted then. It's not such a big deal really, but because there are sections for far less successful rally cars, I feel this redirect will prove useful sooner rather than later. There is no deadline. Prolog (talk) 21:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

    Formatting

    Why are you bothering with making those edits to the heading code? It has no bearing on what's displayed on the page, so what's the point? Also, what exactly are you doing with "whitespace?" --Sable232 (talk) 01:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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