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Hello, NapHit. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for 1978 European Cup Final at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome!

I'm very sorry for what happened with your copyedit request today. As you can see, I'm still very new to copyediting, and to XIV as a whole. Please forgive me, I think I still have a lot to learn before going back to copyediting. Thanks, Nathan2055 02:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Its fine but the skills necessary to copyedit do take a while to develop, and I see that you're a new editor so perhaps you should have waited a while longer. At least your enthusiastic and willing to take on the burden. I would advise to look into the copyedit backlog as a way of honing your copyedit skills there are over 3,500 articles that require copyediting and I think copyediting a few of these will help your skills develop. NapHit (talk) 11:19, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Congratulations on your good article! --Nathan2055 20:21, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not knowledgeable about these things, but as far as I can see your latest edit to Talk:Liverpool F.C. makes it refer to the 2008 peer review rather than the recent one. Good luck for the FA. --Stfg (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

GA review started, it should pass but needs a little work. Adam4267 (talk) 17:09, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for not being on the review for a while I have been a bit busy recently. I will try to get it finished off later today. Adam4267 (talk) 17:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I know that this is Liverpool's fifth FAC. Despite being a Manchester United supporter myself I recognise that Liverpool is also a great club that deserves the best XIV article it can have. So please don't be discouraged by my observations so far; I'll very likely have many more to make before the FAC is over, but I'll also help where I can, as I'm sure will the other reviewers in due course. My aim is to help you get it through FAC this time around, not to criticise all the hard work you've already put in. Malleus Fatuorum 00:34, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate the comments you've made, after all if the article is not up to scratch then it should not pass. Your comments so far have been very helpful and have been better than in previous FACs were the prose was deemed awful. So at least I know the article is one the right tracks. NapHit (talk) 12:04, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

You've got some work to do still, but I think you're getting close. Stick with it. Malleus Fatuorum 02:07, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I will give you a choice of either putting back all the images on the articles or we could go down the route of List of PGA Championship champions and put in the infobox like is done on tennis articles such as List of Australian Open men's singles champions. I like it both ways, but what is your preference?SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 20:53, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

The image that was in the lead was fine just leave that there. Infobox's are more for articles. Images are generally required for featured lists, the reason I removed the other ones was because they were comprising the aesthetics of the table. I'll put the image back in the lead, it looks much better than the infobox. NapHit (talk) 20:58, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

So Hagen is more important than Nicklaus and Jones is more important than Hogan? They both won equal amount of titles at the PGA and U.S. Open.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 21:04, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

When the article got promoted to a featured list three years ago, those were the images in the lead. I think the reason I put Hagen in the lead was because he won his titles first. Look I think you've got the wrong end of the stick from my edits yesterday I was clearing up the areas round the tables so it make the table better and the information easier to read. Images in the lead are encouraged. NapHit (talk) 21:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree! So, it is also the same way with infoboxes can be used in place of images in a lead section to summarize the article in question. I disagree with you that we have to remove the images because they impede the table, which they don't. Differing monitors display the text and tables differently based on resolution and size fo the screen.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 21:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I can't be bothered debating this any longer it really is trivial, just leave the lists the way they were before I removed the images yeesterday. NapHit (talk) 21:25, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

See this would impact my ongoing FLC right now List of LPGA Championship champions that I corrected to make to the modern FLC standards. The men's images need more work in terms of alt text and other accessibility measures, so these had to have scope rows, scope columns, and yet to be done is alt text. By the way, I would say look at my work on List of Kraft Nabisco Championship champions, List of U.S. Women's Open (golf) champions that are FL now. Before I got to them fixing what Bluedogtn created it was a mess like these. All articles now must be able to meet the access standards even FL, which these were promoted three years ago many things have indeed changed. I fixed these to make all the table access friendly to match the women's because if I had not done so these could have been nominated for FLC removal, which is not what I wanted to happen to your hard work. You did great, but things have moved on to meet a high standard.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 21:51, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Why did you remove the verification measure from that article like it is with all the other's? Just a little bit more than a tad bit curious.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 22:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Not sure what verification measure you are on about, but I'll try and explain. Firstly I removed the notes which stated that golfers such as Francis Ouimet were amateurs, the key explains the representative colour means this so the notes were redundant. I removed all those references because they were not needed. The general references do their job, so there is no opint in having extra references when they are not needed. NapHit (talk) 22:31, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

You took out the notes column, which ※] it is in an old revision, so you took and put the playoff by the golfer, which should be done in a notes column to make it cleaner and be Access friendly to users with visual readers. Plus, you delete the references for each individual years tournament so now it violates the verification measures to insure consistancy.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 22:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes I took out the notes column because its redundant without the refs for every year. I have recently had lists promoted to featured status using this method so it not being access friendly doesn't wash, the reader can easily access them. As far as I'm aware you don't need references for individual years for consistency. If there is guideline I'd like to see it because I don't believe there is one. If that was the case then most of my recent nominations would got to featured standard. There is no point in having over a 100 individual refs when two can do the job. NapHit (talk) 22:51, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I am going to see if you are right or wrong because golfoberser is wrong some of the time like the 1953 U.S. Open. See you have to have each year cited by individual sources see 3-over 283]. Golf Observer cannot always be relied upon to provide the to par correct source. This means each year needs to have their own verifiable information. This is just one mishap that I found making leaderboard, which I hope to find no more, but I am not hopeful!SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 23:19, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Why if you were the one adding the references are you now deleting them? I would have been glad to find the others, but you did not give me a chance to do so. Would you be mad if I put them back in so all the golfing list articles are the same or do you want me to delete them all?SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 03:43, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

When I made the lists in 2008 and I stress 2008 that was the protocol. As time moves on so does protocol, general sources for the whole list are now used more widely. I think your making a mountain out of a molehill here. If you have one reference that covers the whole list then there is no point in using multiple references. I don't want you to anything I don't understand why you keep badgering me about this. I'll find sources which verify all the information in the table. OK. NapHit (talk) 12:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I just want XIV to be accurate and verifiable in all, sorry for being a hard ass about sources, but Golfobserver from time-to-time gets things wrong! I believe in the quote "Trust but Verify", but I forgot who actually said the quote.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 17:53, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree that if all the information can be attributed to a single, reliable general source then additional sources are not necessary. However, if a disparity of information occurs between sources, then others need to be brought in to clarify that information. If there are no differences between the given source and other sources, then one will suffice. SFB 17:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Then, if you would please go and delete them from the women's lists Kraft Nabisco, LPGA, U.S. Women's Open, and others.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 16:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Nope I have better things to do than go around deleting see also sections if uniformity between all forms of golf lists and other lists bothers you then do it yourself. NapHit (talk) 17:34, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the speedy review, I've fixed everything but the ACCESS issues and I'm about to go do that. Staxringold _talk 14:41, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I have responded to your comments on the FL review page, and hope that enough has been resolved for you to support. For a couple of them, it might be helpful to compare the article to J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award, NBA Sixth Man Award, or another NBA award that has achieved FL status Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 15:36, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

In regards to your comment earlier today, I have updated it to be in line with similar featured articles, such as NBA Most Valuable Player and J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award. I have expanded the alttext, but since those articles use left-aligned years rather than center-aligned years, the precedent seems to be for left-aligned years. If you want it center-aligned, I can just turn off "plainrowheaders" and that'll do it (more on that at the review page) Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 18:46, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I have nominated List of Liverpool F.C. seasons for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Strawberry on Vanilla (talk) 13:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Did you even look at the list before you nominated it. Most of the problems you cite have recently been addressed since I recently changed the table. The fact that you nominated the list regardless proves your actions are based on WP:POINT.

Comments have been addressed, please comment or support. Thanks, Albacore (talk) 22:25, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm semi-randomly asking users if they would be interested in helping me with my research on XIV. I am writing a dissertation on XIV as part of my undergraduate course at the University of Cambridge. The results will almost certainly not be published to the public, and participants will be anonymous if requested. What I am asking is for you to complete a questionnaire with a number of general, subjective questions about your experiences working on XIV, for example concerning XIV's culture, your motivation in participating and so on. It should take 10-20 minutes. Much more information is available if you are interested. Please reply here or on my talk page. Thanks! I really appreciate any time you can give! Thedarkfourth (talk) 07:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

	Congratulations!
	Thanks for all the work you did in making Liverpool F.C. a Featured Article! Please accept this barnstar. Your work is much appreciated. – Quadell

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for all your excellent work on the Liverpool FC article; it wouldn't have got to FA without you! YNWA! GedUK  18:37, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

sry mate but I've never heard of "MOS" before. If you could give me a link to where is says that the exact change i made was "against" the MOS, it would be great.

i made that change because it look much better, and its not relevant to link to the nationality to the athlete when your just reading results. If the reader don't understand which country he/she is from, its just to take the mouse cursor over the flag, and see where it leads you...

Example

Tony Rominger (SUI)

<-- first link to Switzerland

(SUI) <-- second link to Switzerland

so basically its double up of linking to the nationally of each athlete then. Unnecessary if you ask me, it doesn't look as good either.

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also, does this "rule" only effect cycling or does it effect every sport? seems like its for cycling to me

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--Jofo123 (talk) 23:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

MOS refers to manual of style its how articles are supposed to be written and laid out and articles mist follow these protocols. The Mos for flags is here and it clearly states that flags should be accompanied with the name of the country as not all readers now what country the flag represents. The rule affects all articles although the Liverpool article doesn't have the names due to a debate which reached consensus just to have the flags. Hope that clears up the issue. I would advise you look over the MOS so you know what the guidelines in future. NapHit (talk) 14:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I have reviewed this article at GAN, and placed it on hold pending the resolution of a couple small prose concerns and a few references that require updating. Otherwise, it is very close to a pass. Cheers, Resolute 00:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

You should inform the creator this has been nominated for AfD. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 13:18, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Crystal Clear x3 15:18, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Could you please do me a quick favor and bold your support at XIV:Featured list candidates/List of Clemson Tigers head football coaches/archive1? I can see the support, but it's easy to not notice it when you scroll down FLC. It's important that the other directors can see your support, to ensure that it is taken into account. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

	The Editor's Barnstar
	For all your efforts on making 2005 FIFA Club World Championship Final a GA. If possible, please take time to review an another GAN, so we can clear the backlog, Thanks again! ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ 05:38, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year IV · Issue 9 · September 5, 2011 – October 3, 2011 Previous month's issue
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Article of the month – 2011 Italian Grand Prix The 2011 Italian Grand Prix, formally known as the 2011 Gran Premio Santander d'Italia was a Formula One motor race that was held on 11 September 2011 at the Autodromo Nazionale Monza in Italy. It was the thirteenth round of the 2011 Formula One season, and the sixtieth time the Italian Grand Prix had been held at Monza. The race, contested over 53 laps, was won by Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel, the drivers' championship leader, after starting from pole position. Jenson Button finished in second place for McLaren, and Fernando Alonso completed the podium in third position for Ferrari. As a consequence of the race, Vettel extended his lead in the World Drivers' Championship to 112 points over Alonso, who moved up to second place in the championship. Button moved into third place in the championship, five points behind Alonso, and level on points with fourth-placed Mark Webber, but ahead on countback. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull's championship lead was cut by McLaren to 126 points, with Ferrari a further 71 points behind in third position. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 309 2nd Jenson Button McLaren 185 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari 184 4th Mark Webber Red Bull 182 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 168 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari 84 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 62 8th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 52 9th Vitaly Petrov Renault 34 10th Nick Heidfeld Renault 34 11th Adrian Sutil Force India 28 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 27 13th Paul di Resta Force India 20 14th Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso 16 15th Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso 13 16th Sergio Pérez Sauber 9 17th Rubens Barrichello Williams 4 18th Bruno Senna Renault 2 19th Pastor Maldonado Williams 1 20th Pedro de la Rosa Sauber 0 21st Jarno Trulli Lotus 0 22nd Heikki Kovalainen Lotus 0 23rd Vitantonio Liuzzi Hispania 0 24th Jérôme d'Ambrosio Virgin 0 25th Timo Glock Virgin 0 26th Narain Karthikeyan Hispania 0 27th Daniel Ricciardo Hispania 0 28th Karun Chandhok Lotus 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB7 491 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-26 353 3rd Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 150° Italia 268 4th Mercedes GP Petronas MGP W02 114 5th Lotus Renault GP R31 70 6th Force India F1 Team VJM04 48 7th Sauber F1 Team C30 36 8th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR6 29 9th AT&T Williams FW33 5 10th Team Lotus T128 0 11th Hispania Racing F1 Team F111 0 12th Marussia Virgin Racing MVR-02 0 See 2011 Formula One season for more information
Italian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:20:46.172 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 9.590 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 16.909 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 17.417 5th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP + 32.677 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 42.993 7th Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso + 1 lap 8th Paul di Resta Force India + 1 lap 9th Bruno Senna Renault + 1 lap 10th Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Lewis Hamilton 1:26.187, on lap 52 Italian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:22.275 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:22.725 Row two Jenson Button McLaren 1:22.777 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:22.841 Row three Mark Webber Red Bull 1:22.972 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:23.188 Row four Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:23.530 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:23.777 Row five Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:24.477 Bruno Senna Renault no time* * Senna set no time in Q3, as he did not attempt a run. Friday Practice 1 – McLaren set the Monza standard Friday Practice 2 – Vettel bests Hamilton by a whisker Saturday Practice – Vettel heads Red Bull one-two Qualifying – Spectacular Vettel makes Red Bull's day in Monza Race – Vettel cruises to emphatic Monza victory
Singapore Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:59:06.757 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 1.737 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull + 29.279 4th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 55.449 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 1:07.766 6th Paul di Resta Force India + 1:51.067 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP + 1 lap 8th Adrian Sutil Force India + 1 lap 9th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 1 lap 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Jenson Button 1:48.454, on lap 54 Singapore Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:44.381 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:44.732 Row two Jenson Button McLaren 1:44.804 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:44.809 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:44.874 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:45.800 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:46.013 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP No time* Row five Adrian Sutil Force India No time‡ Paul di Resta Force India No time‡ * Schumacher recorded no time as he did not record a flying lap in Q3. ‡ Sutil and di Resta did not leave the pits during Q3, and were ranked in car number order. First practice delayed for track repairs Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton leads shortened first session Friday Practice 2 – Red Bull ace Ferrari in Singapore Saturday Practice – Webber edges out Button Qualifying – Vettel takes dominant pole in Singapore Race – Perfect Vettel made to wait for title

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The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year IV · Issue 10 · October 3, 2011 – November 9, 2011 Previous month's issue
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Article of the month – 2011 Indian Grand Prix The 2011 Indian Grand Prix, formally the 2011 Formula 1 Airtel Grand Prix of India, was a Formula One motor race that was held on 30 October 2011 at the Buddh International Circuit in Greater Noida, Uttar Pradesh, India. It was the seventeenth round of the 2011 Formula One season, and the first Formula One Grand Prix to take place on the Indian subcontinent. The race, contested over 60 laps, was won by Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel, after leading every lap of the race from pole position. Jenson Button finished in second place for McLaren, and Fernando Alonso completed the podium for Ferrari, in third position. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 374 2nd Jenson Button McLaren 240 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari 227 4th Mark Webber Red Bull 221 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 202 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari 98 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 75 8th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 70 9th Vitaly Petrov Renault 36 10th Nick Heidfeld Renault 34 11th Adrian Sutil Force India 30 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 27 13th Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso 26 14th Paul di Resta Force India 21 15th Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso 15 16th Sergio Pérez Sauber 14 17th Rubens Barrichello Williams 4 18th Bruno Senna Renault 2 19th Pastor Maldonado Williams 1 20th Pedro de la Rosa Sauber 0 21st Jarno Trulli Lotus 0 22nd Heikki Kovalainen Lotus 0 23rd Vitantonio Liuzzi Hispania 0 24th Jérôme d'Ambrosio Virgin 0 25th Timo Glock Virgin 0 26th Narain Karthikeyan Hispania 0 27th Daniel Ricciardo Hispania 0 28th Karun Chandhok Lotus 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB7 595 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-26 442 3rd Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 150° Italia 325 4th Mercedes GP Petronas MGP W02 145 5th Lotus Renault GP R31 72 6th Force India F1 Team VJM04 51 7th Sauber F1 Team C30 41 8th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR6 41 9th AT&T Williams FW33 5 10th Team Lotus T128 0 11th Hispania Racing F1 Team F111 0 12th Marussia Virgin Racing MVR-02 0 See 2011 Formula One season for more information
Japanese Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Jenson Button McLaren 1:30:53.427 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 1.160 3rd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 2.006 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 8.071 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 24.268 6th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP + 27.120 7th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 28.240 8th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 39.377 9th Vitaly Petrov Renault + 42.607 10th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP + 44.322 Fastest Lap: Jenson Button 1:36.568, on lap 52 Japanese Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:30.466 Jenson Button McLaren 1:30.475 Row two Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:30.617 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:30.804 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:30.886 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:31.156 Row four Kamui Kobayashi Sauber No time* Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP No time‡ Row five Bruno Senna Renault No time‡ Vitaly Petrov Renault No time‡ * Kobayashi recorded no time as he did not complete a flying lap in Q3. ‡ Schumacher, Senna and Petrov did not start a flying lap during Q3, and were ranked in car number order. Friday Practice 1 – McLarens lead the way as Vettel crashes Friday Practice 2 – Button keeps McLaren ahead in Japan Saturday Practice – Button makes it three from three Qualifying – Vettel snatches pole from Button by a whisker Race – Vettel crowned champion as Button wins in Japan
Korean Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:38:01.994 2nd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 12.019 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull + 12.477 4th Jenson Button McLaren + 14.694 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 15.689 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 25.133 7th Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso + 49.538 8th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP + 54.053 9th Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso + 1:02.762 10th Paul di Resta Force India + 1:08.602 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:39.605, on lap 55 Korean Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:35.820 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:36.042 Row two Jenson Button McLaren 1:36.126 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:36.468 Row three Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:36.831 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:36.980 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:37.754 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:38.124 Row five Paul di Resta Force India No time* Adrian Sutil Force India No time‡ * Di Resta recorded no time as he did not complete a flying lap in Q3. ‡ Sutil did not start a flying lap during Q3. Friday Practice 1 – Schumacher tops rain-hit session Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton leads McLaren one-two Saturday Practice – McLaren dominate in the dry too Qualifying – Hamilton halts Red Bull's pole run Race – Vettel win seals Red Bull title in Korea
Indian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:30:35.002 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 8.433 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 24.301 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 25.529 5th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP + 1:05.421 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP + 1:06.851 7th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 1:24.183 8th Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso + 1 lap 9th Adrian Sutil Force India + 1 lap 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:27.249, on lap 60 Indian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:24.178 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:24.508 Row two Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:24.519 Jenson Button McLaren 1:24.950 Row three Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:24.474* Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.122 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:25.451 Adrian Sutil Force India No time‡ Row five Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso No time‡ Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso No time‡ * Hamilton received a three-place grid penalty for ignoring yellow flags during free practice – Hamilton and Perez penalised for ignoring yellow flags ‡ Sutil, Buemi and Alguersuari did not complete a flying lap during Q3, and were ranked in car number order. Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton leads the way in India Friday Practice 2 – Massa edges out Vettel in India Saturday Practice – Red Bull versus McLaren at Buddh Qualifying – Vettel on pole for inaugural Indian race Race – Vettel eases to inaugural Indian victory

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Hi NapHit, I am trying to get the 1967 European Cup Final up to GA status. I know you have done quite a few of these so I was wondering if you have come across one where a team had to play a play-off match to decide one of their ties. The reason I ask is because Inter had to play one in the semi-final and I am not sure how to put that in the table. Thanks. Adam4267 (talk) 17:42, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks fur correcting the table. To be honest I'm not sure about that way though, something just does't look right about it. I think I'll manage to get the article done on my own, I'm really just copying the layout you've used on the other articles. But if I do need any more advice I'll come and ask you if that's ok. Adam4267 (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

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		Thanks NapHit for helping to promote 1966 European Cup Winners' Cup Final to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give some a pat on the back today. --Sp33dyphil © • © 05:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reviewing Twenty-five Year Award at FLC. I have replied to your comments here and would love for you to respond where needed and take another look at the article.--Found5dollar (talk) 01:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

• I replied again.--Found5dollar (talk) 18:50, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I've nothing really to add. You've addressed my points; I don't think I can add anything else. Brad78 (talk) 22:46, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I'd simply rather not vote on various criteria; I simply read it through for completeness, thoroughness and depth of focus, all of which I felt were good. Brad78 (talk) 22:59, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I have reviewed this article, and have placed it on hold pending resolution of a couple of very minor issues. Please see my comments at Talk:1981 European Cup Final/GA1. Regards, Resolute 21:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Article of the month – 2011 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix The 2011 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix (formally the Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix) was the eighteenth and penultimate round of the 2011 Formula One season. It was held on 13 November 2011 at the Yas Marina Circuit on Yas Island, a man-made island on the outskirts of Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. It was the third running of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. As is customary with the race, it was the only twilight Grand Prix of the 2011 Formula One season, with a start time of 17:00 local time. The race was won by McLaren's Lewis Hamilton. Second was Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, with Jenson Button coming third in the other McLaren. Sebastian Vettel, in a Red Bull-Renault, had been in pole position, but retired after a puncture in the first lap, near the second corner, which was his first retirement since the 2010 Korean Grand Prix, where he encountered a problem, with his engine. As a result, this prevented him from equalling Michael Schumacher's record of 13 wins in one season, but Vettel did equal Nigel Mansell's 1992 record of 14 pole positions in one season. This was also the first race of 2011 in which neither Red Bull finished on the podium, as Vettel's team-mate Mark Webber finished fourth. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 392 2nd Jenson Button McLaren 270 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull 258 4th Fernando Alonso Ferrari 257 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 227 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari 118 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 89 8th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 76 9th Adrian Sutil Force India 42 10th Vitaly Petrov Renault 37 11th Nick Heidfeld Renault 34 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 30 13th Paul di Resta Force India 27 14th Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso 26 15th Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso 15 16th Sergio Pérez Sauber 14 17th Rubens Barrichello Williams 4 18th Bruno Senna Renault 2 19th Pastor Maldonado Williams 1 20th Pedro de la Rosa Sauber 0 21st Jarno Trulli Lotus 0 22nd Heikki Kovalainen Lotus 0 23rd Vitantonio Liuzzi Hispania 0 24th Jérôme d'Ambrosio Virgin 0 25th Timo Glock Virgin 0 26th Narain Karthikeyan Hispania 0 27th Daniel Ricciardo Hispania 0 28th Karun Chandhok Lotus 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB7 650 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-26 497 3rd Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 150° Italia 375 4th Mercedes GP Petronas MGP W02 165 5th Lotus Renault GP R31 73 6th Force India F1 Team VJM04 69 7th Sauber F1 Team C30 44 8th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR6 41 9th AT&T Williams FW33 5 10th Team Lotus T128 0 11th Hispania Racing F1 Team F111 0 12th Marussia Virgin Racing MVR-02 0 See 2011 Formula One season for more information
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:37:11.886 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 8.457 3rd Jenson Button McLaren + 25.881 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 35.784 5th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 50.578 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP + 52.317 7th Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP + 1:15.964 8th Adrian Sutil Force India + 1:17.122 9th Paul di Resta Force India + 1:41.087 10th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Mark Webber 1:42.612, on lap 51 Abu Dhabi Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:38.481 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:38.622 Row two Jenson Button McLaren 1:38.631 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:38.858 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:39.058 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:39.695 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:39.773 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:40.662 Row five Adrian Sutil Force India 1:40.768 Paul di Resta Force India No time* * Di Resta did not record a flying lap during Q3. Friday Practice 1 – Button takes charge at Yas Marina Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton top as floodlight follows sunlight Saturday Practice – Hamilton keeps McLaren on top Qualifying – Vettel takes record-equalling pole in Abu Dhabi Race – Hamilton victorious after early Vettel exit
Brazilian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Mark Webber Red Bull 1:32:17.464 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 16.983 3rd Jenson Button McLaren + 27.638 4th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 35.048 5th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 1:06.733 6th Adrian Sutil Force India + 1 lap 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP + 1 lap 8th Paul di Resta Force India + 1 lap 9th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 1 lap 10th Vitaly Petrov Renault + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Mark Webber 1:15.324, on lap 71 Brazilian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:11.918 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:12.099 Row two Jenson Button McLaren 1:12.283 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:12.480 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:12.591 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:13.050 Row four Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:13.068 Adrian Sutil Force India 1:13.298 Row five Bruno Senna Renault 1:13.761 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP No time* * Schumacher did not record a time, as he did not complete a flying lap. Friday Practice 1 – Webber fastest for Red Bull at Interlagos Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton pips Vettel at Interlagos Saturday Practice – Vettel leads Button at Interlagos Qualifying – Vettel claims sensational record pole in Brazil Race – Webber posts first win of 2011 at final round

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Thanks for uploading File:1973_uefa_cup_final.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on XIV under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on XIV. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on XIV (see our policy for non-free media).

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I can't remember the URL of the site unfortunately, but I did look at all the other European finals and 1973 wasn't there. I've spend a large amount of time trying to find unused subs on the web but haven't found this one yet. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 16:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Mind you, an image here ※ gives 4 of their subs for the second leg: 12. Allan Simonsen (FW), 13. Heinz Michallik (DF), 14. Klaus-Dieter Sieloff (DF), GK Bernd Schrage ArtVandelay13 (talk) 16:30, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot that's a great help, will include that now. NapHit (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ 15:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

So, where do you think the list would fit? Is it good manners just to undo what someone else did? Formion (talk) 11:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)