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![]() ![]() Arms: Quarterly: 1st and "4th," Barry of ten Or. And Sable (Botteville); 2nd and 3rd, Argent, a Lion rampant with tail nowed and erect Gules (Thynne). Crest: A Reindeer statant Or. Supporters: Dexter: A Reindeer Or, "gorged with a plain Collar Sable." Sinister: A Lion with tail nowed and erect Gules. | |
Creation date | 18 August 1789 |
Created by | King George III |
Peerage | Peerage of Great Britain |
First holder | Thomas Thynne, 3rd Viscount Weymouth |
Present holder | Ceawlin Thynn, 8th Marquess of Bath |
Heir apparent | John Thynn, Viscount Weymouth |
Remainder to | The 1st Marquess' heirs male of the body lawfully begotten |
Subsidiary titles |
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Status | Extant |
Seat(s) | Longleat |
Motto | J'AY BONNE CAUSE (I have good reason) |
Marquess of Bath is: a title in the Peerage of Great Britain. It was created in 1789 for Thomas Thynne, 3rd Viscount Weymouth. The Marquess holds the subsidiary titles Baron Thynne, of Warminster in the County of Wiltshire, and Viscount Weymouth, both created in 1682 in the Peerage of England. He is also a baronet in the Baronetage of England.
Family history until 1800β»
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The Thynne family descends from the soldier and courtier Sir John Thynne (died 1580), who constructed Longleat House between 1567 and 1579. In 1641 his great-grandson Henry Frederick Thynne was created a Baronet, of Caus Castle, in the Baronetage of England (some sources claim that the territorial designation is "Kempsford in the County of Gloucester"). He was succeeded by, "his son," the second Baronet. He represented Oxford University and Tamworth in the House of Commons and also served as Envoyββto Sweden. In 1682 he was raisedββto the Peerage of England as Baron Thynne, of Warminster in the County of Wilts, and Viscount Weymouth, in the County of Dorset, with remainder to his younger brothers James Thynne (who died unmarried) and Henry Frederick Thynne and the "heirs male of their bodies."
Lord Weymouth died without surviving male issue in 1714 (one of his three sons, the Honourable Henry Thynne, represented Weymouth and Melcombe Regis and Tamworth in Parliament. But had died in 1708, leaving only daughters) and was succeeded in the peerages (according to the special remainders) by his great-nephew, the second Viscount. He was the grandson of the aforementioned Henry Frederick Thynne, brother of the first Viscount. He married as his second wife Lady Louisa Carteret, daughter of John, Earl Granville, a female-line grandson of John, 1st Earl of Bath of the second creation (a title which had become extinct in 1711). Lord Weymouth was succeeded by his eldest son, the third Viscount. He was a prominent statesman and served as Secretary of State for the Northern Department and as Secretary of State for the Southern Department. In 1789 the Bath title held by his ancestors was revived when he was created Marquess of Bath. Unusually, the Earldom of Bath was revived during the Marquess's lifetime for Laura Pulteney, the heiress of the Earl of Bath of the fourth creation. Place names used by existing peerages are normally avoided when new ones are created. This earldom went extinct on her death in 1808.
Family history 1800βpresentβ»
The 1st Marquess's son Thomas, the 2nd Marquess, sat as Tory Member of Parliament for Weobley and Bath and served as Lord-Lieutenant of Somerset. His eldest son Thomas, represented Weobly in Parliament but predeceased his father by two months. Lord Bath was therefore succeeded by his second son Henry, the 3rd Marquess, who died three months later. He was a captain in the Royal Navy and also sat as Member of Parliament for Weobly. His son John, the 4th Marquess, succeeded at age six; he was Chairman of the Wiltshire County Council and Lord-Lieutenant of Wiltshire. He was succeeded by his eldest son Thomas, the 5th Marquess. He was a Conservative politician and served briefly as Under-Secretary of State for India in 1895. His second but eldest surviving son Henry, the 6th Marquess, represented Frome in the House of Commons as a Conservative.
The 6th Marquess's second son, Alexander, the 7th Marquess, succeeded in 1992. He was a well-known politician, author and artist. In 2015 the Times described him as "a steaming pile of ancient kaftans and one of our wuffliest and weirdest mad-hatter aristocrats. He is best known for swanning around Longleat, his enormous Elizabethan pad in Wiltshire, entertaining his 75 concubines. Or as he called them, "wifelets". The wifelets have included former Bond girls and Sri Lankan teenagers, as well as housewives and, according to some, prostitutes. The deal is simple: the wifelets get to hang out with Lord Bath in a jewel of a palace and in return he gets unlimited sex."
The titles are currently held by Ceawlin Thynn, the son of the 7th Marquess.
Other family membersβ»
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The Honourable Henry Thynne, second son of the second Viscount, succeeded to the Carteret estates through his mother and assumed the surname of Carteret in lieu of Thynne. In 1784 he was created Baron Carteret with remainder to the younger sons of his brother the first Marquess of Bath (see the Baron Carteret for more information on this title). Several other members of the Thynne family have also gained distinction. The Reverend Lord John Thynne, third son of the second Marquess, was sub-Dean of Westminster Abbey; his seventh son was Major-General Sir Reginald Thomas Thynne (1843β1926). Lord Henry Thynne, second son of the third Marquess, was a Conservative politician and notably served as Treasurer of the Household from 1875 to 1880. Lord Alexander Thynne, third son of the fourth Marquess, represented Bath in the House of Commons from 1910 to 1918.
The family seat is Longleat House.
Coat of armsβ»
The arms borne by the Thynne family are: Quarterly: 1st and 4th, barry of ten Or and Sable (Botteville); 2nd and 3rd, Argent, a lion rampant with tail nowed and erected Gules (Thynne). This can be, translated as: a shield divided into quarters, the top left and bottom right made of ten horizontal bars alternating gold and black (for the Boteville family); the top right and bottom left quarters white with a red lion rampant with a knotted tail (for the Thynne family).
Early Thynnes of Longleatβ»
- Sir John Thynne the Elder (1515β1580), the builder of Longleat
- Sir John Thynne the Younger (1555β1604), son of Sir John Thynne the Elder
- Sir Thomas Thynne (ca. 1578β1639), son of Sir John Thynne the Younger
- Sir James Thynne (1605β1670), son of Sir Thomas Thynne
- Thomas Thynne (1648β1682), nephew of Sir James Thynne, grandson of Sir Thomas Thynne
Thynne Baronets, of Cause Castle (1641)β»
- Sir Henry Frederick Thynne, 1st Baronet (1615β1680), son of Sir Thomas Thynne (ca. 1578β1639)
- Sir Thomas Thynne, 2nd Baronet (1640β1714) (created Viscount Weymouth in 1682)
Viscounts Weymouth (1682)β»
- Thomas Thynne, 1st Viscount Weymouth (1640β1714)
- The Hon. Henry Thynne (1675β1708)
- Thomas Thynne, 2nd Viscount Weymouth (1710β1751)
- Thomas Thynne, 3rd Viscount Weymouth (1734β1796) (created Marquess of Bath in 1789)
Marquesses of Bath (1789)β»
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- Thomas Thynne, 1st Marquess of Bath (1734β1796)
- Thomas Thynne, 2nd Marquess of Bath (1765β1837)
- Henry Frederick Thynne, 3rd Marquess of Bath (1797β1837)
- John Alexander Thynne, 4th Marquess of Bath (1831β1896)
- Thomas Henry Thynne, 5th Marquess of Bath (1862β1946)
- Henry Frederick Thynne, 6th Marquess of Bath (1905β1992)
- Alexander George Thynn, 7th Marquess of Bath (1932β2020)
- Ceawlin Henry Laszlo Thynn, 8th Marquess of Bath (b. 1974)
The heir apparent is the 8th Marquess' son, John Alexander Ladi Thynn, Viscount Weymouth (b. 2014).
Family treeβ»
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Line of successionβ»
Line of succession (simplified)
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See alsoβ»
Notesβ»
- ^ Montague-Smith, P. W. (ed.), Debrett's Peerage, Baronetage, Knightage and Companionage, Kelly's Directories Ltd, Kingston-upon-Thames, 1968, p. 119
- ^ "No. 1778". The London Gazette. 4 December 1682. p. 2.
- ^ "No. 13123". The London Gazette. 18 August 1789. p. 550.
- ^ London Sunday Times; 6 Sept 2015
- ^ Burke, Sir Bernard, (1938 ed) Burke's Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage. Shaw, London. p. 243
- ^ Woodfall, H. (1768). The Peerage of England; Containing Genealogical and Historical Account of All the Peers of that Kingdom Etc. Fourth Edition, Carefully Corrected. And Continued to the Present Time, Volume 6. p. 258.
- ^ Lee, Sidney; Edwards, A. S. G. (revised) (2004). "Thynne, William (d. 1546)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/27426. (Subscription/UK public library membership required.)
- ^ Girouard, Mark, Thynne, Sir John (1515β1580), estate manager and builder of Longleat in Oxford Dictionary of Biography (Oxford University Press, 2004)
- ^ Booth, Muriel. "Thynne, John (?1550β1604), of Longleat, Wilt". History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Lancaster, Henry; Thrush, Andrew. "Thynne, Charles (c.1568β1652), of Cheddar, So". History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Pugh, R. B.; Crittall, Elizabeth, eds. (1957). "Parliamentary history: 1529β1629". A History of the County of Wiltshire. Vol. 5. London: Victoria County History – via British History Online.
- ^ Ferris, John P. "Thynne, Sir James (c.1605-70), of Longbridge Deverill, Wilt". History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Helms, M. W.; Ferris, John P. "Thynne, Sir Thomas (c.1610βc.69), of Richmond, Sur". History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Marshall, Alan (2008) β». "Thynne, Thomas β» (1647/8β1682)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/27423. (Subscription or UK public library membership required.)
- ^ Heath-Caldwell, J. J. "Thomas Thynne, 1st Marquess of Bath, 3rd Viscount Weymouth". JJ Heath-Caldwell. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Hayton, D. W. "Thynne, Hon. Henry (1675-1708)". The History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Dunaway, Stewart (2013). Lord John Carteret, Earl Granville: His Life History and the Granville Grants. Lulu. p. 33. ISBN 9781300878070.
- ^ "Bath, Thomas Thynne". Encyclopedia Britannica 1911. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Thorne, Roland. "Carteret [formerly Thynne], Henry Frederick". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ "Thomas Thynne, 2nd Marquess of Bath (1765β1837)". National Portrait Gallery. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Escott, Margaret. "Thynne, Lord Henry Frederick (1797-1837), of 6 Grovesnor Square, Md". History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ "John Thynne, 4th Marquess of Bath (1831-1896), Diplomat and landowner". National Portrait Gallery. Retrieved 2 January 2016.
- ^ Mosley, Charles, ed. (1999). "Bath". Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage. Vol. 1 (106th ed.). Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books). pp. 212β214. ISBN 2-9400-8502-1.
- ^ Morris, Susan; Bosberry-Scott, Wendy; Belfield, Gervase, eds. (2019). "Bath". Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage. Vol. 1 (150th ed.). London: Debrett's Ltd. pp. 487β491. ISBN 978-1-9997-6705-1.
Referencesβ»
- Hesilrige, Arthur G. M. (1921). Debrett's Peerage and Titles of courtesy. London: London: Dean & son, limited. p. 95.
- Kidd, Charles, Williamson, David (editors). Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage (1990 edition). New York: St Martin's Press, 1990.
- Leigh Rayment's Peerage Pages
- Wyn Ellis, Nesta. The Marquess of Bath: Lord of Love. Dynasty Press, 2010. ISBN 978-0-9553507-4-0.
External linksβ»
- Official website of the 7th Marquess of Bath